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Can a manifestation tell us to “Go Ye?”

In Apologetics on November 28, 2013 at 6:53 am

oh 15:23 Whoever hates me hates my Father also.
Joh 15:24 If I had not done among them the works that no one else did, they would not be guilty of sin, but now they have seen and hated both me and my Father.
Joh 15:25 But the word that is written in their Law must be fulfilled: ‘They hated me without a cause.’
Joh 15:26 “But when the Helper comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father, he will bear witness about me.
Joh 15:27 And you also will bear witness, because you have been with me from the beginning.

If God sends the Messiah and gives him a mission then hating the person of Jesus includes hating his Father who sent him. Jesus very plainly make the argument in John 15:24 for both persons when He says they hated both (BOTH, a. Two, considered as distinct from others or by themselves; the one and the other. This word is often placed before the nouns with which it is connected.) the nouns are the Father and Son both is the adjective that describes the distinction of Father and Son.
John 15:24

The works which none other man did – The miracles of Jesus surpassed those of Moses and the prophets:
1. In their number. He healed great multitudes, and no small part of his life was occupied in doing good by miraculous power.
2. In their nature. They involved a greater exertion of power. He healed all forms of disease. He showed that his power was superior to all kinds of pain. He raised Lazarus after he had been four days dead. He probably refers also to the fact that he had performed miracles of a different kind from all the prophets.
3. He did all this by his own power; Moses and the prophets by the invoked power of God. Jesus spake and it was done, showing that he had power of himself to do more than all the ancient prophets had done. It may be added that his miracles were done in a short time. They were constant, rapid, continued, in all places. Wherever he was, he showed that he had this power, and in the short space of three years and a half it is probable that he performed more miracles than are recorded of Moses and Elijah, and all the prophets put together.
Albert Barnes Notes on the Bible

and hated both me and my Father; for their rejection of him as the Messiah, notwithstanding the doctrines he taught, and the miracles he wrought, plainly arose from obstinacy, malice, and inveterate hatred against Christ, and against the Father that sent him.

John Gills Exposition of the Entire Bible

Jesus in verse 25 gives us the hope of the person of the Holy Spirit the promised comforter and helper. When we have the promise of of the Spirit we now not only know the Son but through the Spirit he dwells or lives internally and eternally with us. The Son sends from the Father the Holy Spirit the Godhead in his own words defined. The Father decrees, the Son accomplishes and the Spirit applies. Without this important statement from the Son we would lose the distinction and understanding of the actions within the Godhead spoken plainly by one in the Godhead who is accomplishing that work. This is and has been the understanding of the orthodox church even as the early church was wrestling with the language of the Trinity, the orthodox understanding was the distinctions within the Godhead. If we look closely at the disciples they grasped this, tought this and accepted the unity, diversity and community of the Trinity.

John 15:26
But when the Comforter is come,…. Or advocate, the Spirit of God; who was to be, and has been an advocate for Christ, against the world, and for his people, against all their enemies; and who as he was to reprove, and did reprove the world of sin, righteousness, and judgment, in favour of Christ, so he was to assist his people, and plead their cause, and help them, in vindication of themselves, before the princes of the earth, as he did: and who also was to act, and has acted the part of a “comforter” to them, under all the hatred and violence they have met with from the world; by taking and applying the things of Christ to them; by shedding the love of God in them; by applying the promises of the Gospel to them; by witnessing their adoption, and sealing them up to the day of redemption:

whom I will send unto you from the Father; visibly, as on the day of Pentecost, in cloven tongues as of fire; and invisibly into their hearts, by the secret influence of his light and grace; which mission, as it suggests no inferiority in the spirit, either to the Father or the Son; since the same spirit with the Father, was the sender of Christ; so it is expressive of the equal deity of Christ, and his joint power and authority with the Father:

even the Spirit of truth; who is the true Spirit, truth itself; yea, the true God, with the Father and Son; the Spirit of him who is truth; the dictator of the Scriptures of truth; who leads his people into all truth; and is the Spirit of truth, as he is a witness or testifier of Christ, hereafter promised:

which proceedeth from the Father; Christ is not content to describe him by his work and office, as, an, advocate and comforter, and as the Spirit of truth: and from his mission by him from the Father; all which shows his usefulness and authority; but also from his nature and essence, which is the same with the Father’s; and from his peculiar personal and distinctive character, expressed by his proceeding from the Father; and which is mentioned, as what is distinct from his mission by Christ, from the Father before spoken of; and designs no other, than the eternal, ineffable, and continued act of his procession, from the Father and the Son; in which he partakes of the same nature with them, and which personally distinguishes him from them. The ancient Jews (x) spoke of him just in the same language; “the Spirit of God”, in Gen_1:2; they say is the Holy Spirit, מאלהים דנפיק, “which proceedeth from God”: very pertinently does Christ take notice of this his character here, when he was about to speak of him as his testifier:

he shall testify of me: of his deity and sonship, of his incarnation, of his being the Messiah, of his sufferings and death, of his resurrection and ascension, of his exaltation at the right hand of God, and of his ordination to be the Judge of quick and dead; all which he bore testimony to, by the gifts bestowed upon the apostles, and the great grace that was upon them all; by the signs, wonders, and divers miracles, by which the Gospel of Christ was confirmed; and by the power, influence, and success, which attended the preaching of it every where. Thus he testified of Christ, against the blaspheming Jews, and persecuting Gentiles, to the reproof and confusion of them; and he testified of him to the apostles, and all true believers, to their great joy and comfort, and to the support of them, under all the malice and hatred of the world.

(x) Zohar in Gen. fol. 1. 4.

John Gills Exposition of the Entire Bible

Our responsibility is to bear witness to the same news concerning Jesus Christ! We as believers have the same Holy Spirit as the disciples, we have the same mission to proclaim the risen Christ, and we have the same standing we are his disciples, friend and most of all brother. “Go Ye”

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