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Arriving, Departing, Sending, Going, Giving, Receiving

In Apologetics on November 5, 2013 at 6:34 am

Joh 13:1 Now before the Feast of the Passover, when Jesus knew that his hour had come to depart out of this world to the Father, having loved his own who were in the world, he loved them to the end.

Jesus is very plain in his language of the Father existing in another place separate from the world and his intention of returning to His place with the Father. Jesus consistently uses Father, Son language and references and speaks of His existence in another place separate from our world. Logic demands, and language confirms His preexistence, existence and resurrection. In our finite understanding of God’s infinite eternal existence the sense we can make of this language is a nature or essence that is shared by three persona or persons. God while not using the term in scripture consistently describes this type of existence throughout the Bible.

That he should depart (hina metabēi). Sub-final use of hina with second aorist active subjunctive of metabainō, old word, to go from one place to another, here (Joh_5:24; 1Jo_3:14) to go from this world (Joh_8:23) back to the Father from whom he had come (Joh_14:12, Joh_14:28; Joh_16:10, Joh_16:28; Joh_17:5).
His own which were in the world (tous idious tous en tōi kosmōi). His own disciples (Joh_17:6, Joh_17:9, Joh_17:11), those left in the world when he goes to the Father, not the Jews as in Joh_1:11. See Act_4:23; 1Ti_5:8 for the idiom. John pictures here the outgoing of Christ’s very heart’s love (chs. John 13-17) towards these men whom he had chosen and whom he loved “unto the end” (eis telos) as in Mat_10:22; Luk_18:15, but here as in 1Th_2:16 rather “to the uttermost.” The culmination of the crisis (“his hour”) naturally drew out the fulness of Christ’s love for them as is shown in these great chapters (John 13-17).
Robertson’s Word Pictures

Joh 13:2 During supper, when the devil had already put it into the heart of Judas Iscariot, Simon’s son, to betray him,
Joh 13:3 Jesus, knowing that the Father had given all things into his hands, and that he had come from God and was going back to God,

The disciples understood that Jesus and the Father were one yet distinct protecting monotheism and allowing for persons who shared the same essence. John writes that the Father (person) had given all things to Jesus (person) and was from God (past tense) showing his preexistence with God and was returning to that existence that he had known before.

Knowing (eidōs). Repeated from Joh_13:1, accenting the full consciousness of Jesus.
Had given (edōken). So Aleph B L W, aorist active instead of dedōken (perfect active) of didōmi. Cf. Joh_3:31 for a similar statement with en instead of eis. See Mat_11:27 (Luk_10:22) and Mat_28:18 for like claim by Jesus to complete power.
And that he came forth from God, and goeth unto God (kai hoti apo theou exēlthen kai pros ton theon hupagei). See plain statement by Jesus on this point in Joh_16:28. The use of pros ton theon recalls the same words in Joh_1:1. Jesus is fully conscious of his deity and Messianic dignity when he performs this humble act.
Robertson’s Word Pictures

Striking Facts: Joh_13:3, Joh_13:4, Joh_13:5, Joh_13:12, Joh_13:16. Jesus “arose” from His place in glory, laid aside the garments of divine majesty. (Php_2:6-7.) Took the form of a “servant” (Php_2:7). Provides “cleansing” (Joh_15:3). Applies the cleansing water (Eph_5:26). “Took His garments” again (Joh_17:5), and is seated. (Heb_10:12.)

Then Jesus washes the feet of the disciples showing how we are to humble ourselves as followers the he closes the scene with this admonition:

Joh 13:17 If you know these things, blessed are you if you do them.
Joh 13:18 I am not speaking of all of you; I know whom I have chosen. But the Scripture will be fulfilled, ‘He who ate my bread has lifted his heel against me.’
Joh 13:19 I am telling you this now, before it takes place, that when it does take place you may believe that I am he.
Joh 13:20 Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever receives the one I send receives me, and whoever receives me receives the one who sent me.”

In the act of receiving Jesus we also receive the Father, I would submit that this illustrates the Triad of the Godhead. If according to the scriptures we receive Jesus in any other understanding other than person this verse in its logical conclusion makes us out to be gods on par or equal to the Father. On the other hand the three oneness of God allows us to remain His children and share in His nature. Distinctions honor God separations kill the creature. If I distinguish between my person and my being I can exist. If I separate my my person from my being I expire.

Luk 10:16 “The one who hears you hears me, and the one who rejects you rejects me, and the one who rejects me rejects him who sent me.”

Luke plainly records one who hears you (person) hears me (Jesus person) and the rejection attributes personhood as well. Then in the same statement rejecting Jesus (person) is also rejecting the One (person) who sent him. Only persons in relationship can send, go, reject and receive. Heavenly ideas and manifestations are in a sub category to person.

He that heareth you, heareth me,…. This is said for the encouragement of the seventy disciples, that though they would be rejected by some, they would be received by others, who would hear them, and embrace their doctrine, as if the Messiah himself had been among them; they looking upon them as representing him: and so Christ himself considers them as ambassadors in his name, and as representing his person, taking what is done to them, as done to himself; See Gill on Mat_10:40.

and he that despiseth you, despiseth me: every degree of contempt cast upon them by words or actions, Christ looked upon as cast on himself, and will resent it another day, and punish for it. The despising of wise men, or doctors, and their disciples or scholars, was accounted with the Jews a very heinous crime, and was severely punished both by excommunication and fines: for thus it is said (h),

“a great iniquity it is to despise the wise men, or to hate them. Jerusalem was not destroyed until the disciples of the wise men were despised in it, as it is said, 2Ch_36:16 “but they mocked the messengers of God, and despised his words, and misused his prophets”: as if he should say, they despised those that taught his words: and thus saith the law, “if ye despise my statutes”; they that teach my statutes ye will despise; and every one that despiseth the wise men, hath no part in the world to come; and lo! this is included in that general rule, “for he hath despised the word of the Lord”. Although he that despiseth the wise men hath no part in the world to come, if witnesses come (and depose) that he hath despised them even in words, he is guilty of excommunication: and the sanhedrim excommunicate him publicly, and fine him a pound of gold in every place, and give it to the wise men: and he that despiseth a wise man by words, even after his (the wise man’s) death, the sanhedrim excommunicate him; and they free him when he returns by repentance: but if the wise man is alive, they do not free him till he pleases.”

And he that despiseth me, despiseth him that sent me: this is said to aggravate the sin of the despisers of Christ’s ministers, and to deter from it; since the contempt does not terminate in them, nor even in Christ, but reaches his Father also. The Ethiopic version adds, “and he that heareth me, heareth him that sent me”: but is not supported by any copy, or any other version.

(h) Maimon. Hilch. Talmud Tora, c. 6. sect. 11, 12.
John Gill’s Exposition of the entire Bible

Luk 10:17 The seventy-two returned with joy, saying, “Lord, even the demons are subject to us in your name!”
Luk 10:18 And he said to them, “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven.
Luk 10:19 Behold, I have given you authority to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing shall hurt you.
Luk 10:20 Nevertheless, do not rejoice in this, that the spirits are subject to you, but rejoice that your names are written in heaven.”

Mat 10:38 And whoever does not take his cross and follow me is not worthy of me.
Mat 10:39 Whoever finds his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life for my sake will find it.
Mat 10:40 “Whoever receives you receives me, and whoever receives me receives him who sent me.

e that receiveth you, receiveth me,…. This is said to comfort the disciples, lest they should conclude from this account of the sorrows, afflictions, and persecutions they were to meet with, that there would be none that would receive them and their message; Christ therefore suggests, that there would be some that would embrace the Gospel preached by them, and receive them kindly into their houses, and entertain them in a very hospitable manner: and, for the encouragement of such persons, who would risk their own goods and lives by so doing, he lets them know, that receiving of his disciples, was interpreted by him, a receiving of himself; and what they did to them, would be taken as kindly, as if done to him personally; and, in like manner, would it be understood and accepted by his Father:

and he that receiveth me, receiveth him that sent me. To which agrees, what the Jews say (p) of the angel, in Exo_23:22 “If thou shalt indeed obey his voice, and do all that I shall speak”: who observe, that it is not written, “that he shall speak”, but “that I shall speak”; intimating, that אם מקבלין א־תאם הימנו כאלו לי א־תאם מקבלים, “if ye receive him, it is all one as if you received me”: and the whole of this accords with a common saying among (q) them, ששלוחו של אדם כמותו, “that a man’s messenger is as himself”. The Jew (r), therefore, has no reason to reproach Christ and his followers as he does, as if it was the sense of these words of Christ, and which the Christians give of them, that Christ and his twelve apostles were but one person.

(p) Shemot Rabba Parash. 32. fol. 135. 3. (q) T. Bab. Baracot, fol. 34. 2. Kiddushin, fol. 41. 2. 42. 1. & 43. 1. Bava Metzia, fol. 96. 1. (r) R. Isaac Chizzuk Emuna, par 2. sect. 14. p. 404.

John Gill’s Exposition of the entire Bible

Matthew has the same language regarding sending and receiving as Luke and John, once again the scripture is consistent in representing persons who Arriving, Departing, Sending, Going, Giving, Receiving.

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