From Jack in regards to Evil

In Apologetics, Christ, Christian, Christianity, Prayer, Satan, Saved on March 4, 2009 at 3:57 am

From Jack

Good debate on morality issue. Why don’t you throw Satan in as the Fallen Angel that rebelled against God because he wanted to be like God. This I believe happened long before the creation of the world. Did morality begin at that time (when Satan rebelled)? Now with this in mind was the Tree of Knowledge put into the garden because God knew that Satan would try to influence the humans God create in His own image (having a free will). Just throwing around issue for debate.

From Dan

I think Oswald Chambers has some insight buried in this devotional from My Utmost for His Highest:

The Way to Knowledge

If anyone wills to do His will, he shall know concerning the doctrine . . . —John 7:17

The golden rule to follow to obtain spiritual understanding is not one of intellectual pursuit, but one of obedience. If a person wants scientific knowledge, then intellectual curiosity must be his guide. But if he desires knowledge and insight into the teachings of Jesus Christ, he can only obtain it through obedience. If spiritual things seem dark and hidden to me, then I can be sure that there is a point of disobedience somewhere in my life. Intellectual darkness is the result of ignorance, but spiritual darkness is the result of something that I do not intend to obey.


No one ever receives a word from God without instantly being put to the test regarding it. We disobey and then wonder why we are not growing spiritually. Jesus said, “If you bring your gift to the altar, and there remember that your brother has something against you, leave your gift there before the altar, and go your way. First be reconciled to your brother, and then come and offer your gift” ( Matthew 5:23-24 ). He is saying, in essence, “Don’t say another word to me; first be obedient by making things right.” The teachings of Jesus hit us where we live. We cannot stand as impostors before Him for even one second. He instructs us down to the very last detail. The Spirit of God uncovers our spirit of self-vindication and makes us sensitive to things that we have never even thought of before.


When Jesus drives something home to you through His Word, don’t try to evade it. If you do, you will become a religious impostor. Examine the things you tend simply to shrug your shoulders about, and where you have refused to be obedient, and you will know why you are not growing spiritually. As Jesus said, “First . . . go . . ..” Even at the risk of being thought of as fanatical, you must obey what God tells you.

You see from the above highlighted items God will test us not from some punitive perspective but see our obedience to Him. Much like Adam and Eve the tree wasn’t so much about knowledge but obedience. Remember God requires obedience more than sacrifice.

Next the origin of Evil God never really clarifies where it came from but more importantly what the results are from it and our involvement with it.

I have heard it put like this God left just enough out of the Bible for us to come to him in faith. Nothing else pleases him:




Heb 11:6



I believe that Piper has penned: God is most glorified in us when we are most satisfied with Him.

Now without faith it is impossible to please God, for the one who draws near to Him must believe that He exists and rewards those who seek Him.


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