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Response to Advanced Onset Calvinism

In Apologetics, Chrisitian, Christian, Christianity, Trinity on April 16, 2016 at 6:42 am

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Approximately 1 out of every 4 Christians will encounter adult onset Calvinism (commonly known as AOC) during their life, either personally or in someone close to them. It can be a scary thing to encounter, especially if you’re not familiar with the symptoms. The person you once knew and loved is suddenly a completely different person.

Don’t panic.

DN-No need for panic the cure is what you are dealing with not the symptom.

It gets better.

DN-Correct though careful study and prayer start with the 5 Solas

To help you navigate the treacherous waters of AOC, I’ve listed the possible symptoms you may encounter.

  • A sudden urge to correct everything and everyone all the time about every possible thing.

DN- that is the cage stage of the cure find a brother who is reformed, he will help you through the excitement of finally finding the truth.

  • A growing conviction that every worship song you’ve ever sung is heretical and should be excised from the church catalog, including the Nicene Creed, Doxology, and most of the Psalms.

DN- This would be over reaction that turns into Hyper-Calvinism slows ruins the cure too much of a good thing.

  • A strange and inexplicable ability to listen to 300 John Piper sermons in a single day.

DN- And add RC Sproul, James White, Alistair Begg, John MacAuther and the like.

  • A burning passion to convert everyone, especially your extremely godly parents WHO TAUGHT YOU THE BIBLE, to Calvinism.

DN- The symptoms you describe are usually in response to “Who So Ever” “My Free Will” “Robots” just to be clear your parents are still Godly just wrong in tradition. In respect we illustrate the truth in Scripture and it confronts tradition.

  • A growing level of arrogance that is directly inverse to the number of blog posts you write about humility.

DN- Arrogance is a sign that everyone needs more Holy Spirit and Scripture. It’s not just those of the reformed view but Armenians as well.

  • Constant cravings for cigars and microbrews, even though they make you incredibly sick.

DN- This is actually evidence of a need to prove you’re a hipster and it’s not limited to Calvinists mostly 30 somethings that feel they need to prove something.

  • Deep suspicion of anything that might cause the slightest bit of emotion in church, especially those awful worship songs noted above.

DN- This is more symptom not cure I’ve been to many SBC, Non-Denominational gatherings that should have had a casket not an altar.

  • Deep-seated cynicism toward anyone who doesn’t take a hard stance on an issue, including but not limited to: free will, Calvinism, sports, coffee, the Trinity, capitalism, child schooling, and dating.

DN- I am a natural cynic Reformed or not, but not standing on the Trinity is denying the very nature and essence of Christianity the others not limited to reformed gatherings. This one should be big and defended, without it you get the modern church, “forget the doctrines that divide us we just want the words of Jesus” “Love Wins” that sort of ilk.

  • Being so smug you begin to panic that you won’t be able to adequately manifest all the smugness.

DN- This illustrates the arrogance in everyone including those synergists who hold their smugness as bag of freewill honor claiming that God needed their corporation in achieving His purpose.

  • An unshakeable conviction that Tim Keller is too theologically soft.

DN- Much like Steve Gaines at Bellevue for Semi-plagians, Armenians.

  • The ability to bring every conversation full circle to Romans 9.

DN- Actually Romans 8 and 9, and still waiting for a full exigent from any Arminian that doesn’t wonder all over Scripture running references and spouting philosophical rhetoric.

  • Frustration that guys like Piper and Sproul don’t draw more lines in the sand.

DN- Love Sproul, Piper, White, MacArthur, etc. no need for lines in the sand and far from frustrated.

  • Inevitably arriving at the conclusion that John Calvin was not that strong of a Calvinist. At least, not as strong as you are.

DN- Sounds more like the crew at Biola and the William Lane Craig crowd.

  • Growing a beard, but not in a hipster way! This beard is WAY DIFFERENT from hipster beards, because it tapers to a point somewhere between the nipples, just like Calvin’s beard did.

DN- I believe Jacob Arminius had the same beard just saying. The collar kept it shorter a newer fashion statement.

If you or someone you know begins experiencing these symptoms, go to a pastor IMMEDIATELY. It won’t make the slightest bit of difference, because you were predestined to be a Calvinist, but still, you should probably see a pastor.

DN- Please by all means seek out someone who read the books from the John 3:16 conference, and quotes a book about Calvinism versus actually studying the view. First question you must ask, “Have you actually read The Institutes of the Christian Religion?” Second question “Can you define the 5 Solas?” last question “If not can you direct me to someone who actually has so I can talk to them?”

But don’t worry. After 5-6 years, these symptoms will subside and you or your loved one will return to being a mostly normal person.

DN- If by normal you mean returning to the emotional turmoil of seeing people, quote a “sinners prayer” at the altar, baptized and receiving their get of hell free card, I hope not for the sake of the Gospel.

Until then…sorry.

 

Approximately 1 out of every 4 Christians will encounter adult onset Calvinism (commonly known as AOC) during their life, either personally or in someone close to them. It can be a scary thing to encounter, especially if you’re not familiar with the symptoms. The person you once knew and loved is suddenly a completely different person.

Don’t panic.

DN-No need for panic the cure is what you are dealing with not the symptom.

It gets better.

DN-Correct though careful study and prayer start with the 5 Solas

To help you navigate the treacherous waters of AOC, I’ve listed the possible symptoms you may encounter.

  • A sudden urge to correct everything and everyone all the time about every possible thing.

DN- that is the cage stage of the cure find a brother who is reformed, he will help you through the excitement of finally finding the truth.

  • A growing conviction that every worship song you’ve ever sung is heretical and should be excised from the church catalog, including the Nicene Creed, Doxology, and most of the Psalms.

DN- This would be over reaction that turns into Hyper-Calvinism slows ruins the cure too much of a good thing.

  • A strange and inexplicable ability to listen to 300 John Piper sermons in a single day.

DN- And add RC Sproul, James White, Alistair Begg, John MacAuther and the like.

  • A burning passion to convert everyone, especially your extremely godly parents WHO TAUGHT YOU THE BIBLE, to Calvinism.

DN- The symptoms you describe are usually in response to “Who So Ever” “My Free Will” “Robots” just to be clear your parents are still Godly just wrong in tradition. In respect we illustrate the truth in Scripture and it confronts tradition.

  • A growing level of arrogance that is directly inverse to the number of blog posts you write about humility.

DN- Arrogance is a sign that everyone needs more Holy Spirit and Scripture. It’s not just those of the reformed view but Armenians as well.

  • Constant cravings for cigars and microbrews, even though they make you incredibly sick.

DN- This is actually evidence of a need to prove you’re a hipster and it’s not limited to Calvinists mostly 30 somethings that feel they need to prove something.

  • Deep suspicion of anything that might cause the slightest bit of emotion in church, especially those awful worship songs noted above.

DN- This is more symptom not cure I’ve been to many SBC, Non-Denominational gatherings that should have had a casket not an altar.

  • Deep-seated cynicism toward anyone who doesn’t take a hard stance on an issue, including but not limited to: free will, Calvinism, sports, coffee, the Trinity, capitalism, child schooling, and dating.

DN- I am a natural cynic Reformed or not, but not standing on the Trinity is denying the very nature and essence of Christianity the others not limited to reformed gatherings. This one should be big and defended, without it you get the modern church, “forget the doctrines that divide us we just want the words of Jesus” “Love Wins” that sort of ilk.

  • Being so smug you begin to panic that you won’t be able to adequately manifest all the smugness.

DN- This illustrates the arrogance in everyone including those synergists who hold their smugness as bag of freewill honor claiming that God needed their corporation in achieving His purpose.

  • An unshakeable conviction that Tim Keller is too theologically soft.

DN- Much like Steve Gaines at Bellevue for Semi-plagians, Armenians.

  • The ability to bring every conversation full circle to Romans 9.

DN- Actually Romans 8 and 9, and still waiting for a full exigent from any Arminian that doesn’t wonder all over Scripture running references and spouting philosophical rhetoric.

  • Frustration that guys like Piper and Sproul don’t draw more lines in the sand.

DN- Love Sproul, Piper, White, MacArthur, etc. no need for lines in the sand and far from frustrated.

  • Inevitably arriving at the conclusion that John Calvin was not that strong of a Calvinist. At least, not as strong as you are.

DN- Sounds more like the crew at Biola and the William Lane Craig crowd.

  • Growing a beard, but not in a hipster way! This beard is WAY DIFFERENT from hipster beards, because it tapers to a point somewhere between the nipples, just like Calvin’s beard did.

DN- I believe Jacob Arminius had the same beard just saying. The collar kept it shorter a newer fashion statement.

If you or someone you know begins experiencing these symptoms, go to a pastor IMMEDIATELY. It won’t make the slightest bit of difference, because you were predestined to be a Calvinist, but still, you should probably see a pastor.

DN- Please by all means seek out someone who read the books from the John 3:16 conference, and quotes a book about Calvinism versus actually studying the view. First question you must ask, “Have you actually read The Institutes of the Christian Religion?” Second question “Can you define the 5 Solas?” last question “If not can you direct me to someone who actually has so I can talk to them?”

But don’t worry. After 5-6 years, these symptoms will subside and you or your loved one will return to being a mostly normal person.

DN- If by normal you mean returning to the emotional turmoil of seeing people, quote a “sinners prayer” at the altar, baptized and receiving their get of hell free card, I hope not for the sake of the Gospel.

Until then…sorry.

 

 

Major Evolutionary Blunders: Survival of the Fittest, Eugenics, and Abortion

In Apologetics on January 4, 2016 at 5:38 am

Source: Major Evolutionary Blunders: Survival of the Fittest, Eugenics, and Abortion

Understanding Scripture: An Overview of the Bible’s Origin, Reliability, and Meaning

In Apologetics on December 12, 2014 at 6:38 am

JUSTIN MARTYR AND IRENAEUS In reaction to Marcion, other Christian teachers formulated a more orthodox way of approaching the sacred writings. Justin Martyr (c. AD 100–165), an early defender of Christianity, argued that the difference between the Old Testament and New Testament is only a matter of degree. The Old Testament anticipated and foretold events, and was superseded by the New Testament writings because they represented the fulfillment of earlier anticipations. Thus, Justin Martyr, particularly in his Dialogue, stressed a messianic continuity and utilized a literal-historical approach to interpretation. However, it was Irenaeus (c. AD 130–200) who gathered the threads of interpretation more systematically. Though his approach to the Old Testament was more literal than that of his predecessors, he also saw a typological meaning in the text. In Irenaeus’s view the Scriptures are like “treasure hidden in a field” (Matt. 13:44) in that the literal was also the typological: the Bible is full of prefigurements, especially of the Messiah. Irenaeus also championed ideas that are still generally accepted by modern interpreters: (1) exegesis should pay careful attention to context; (2) unclear or obscure texts should be interpreted by clearer ones; and (3) a nonliteral reading of some passages may be warranted. Irenaeus held that the true meaning of the Scriptures is the interpretation of the apostles as presented in the New Testament and is embodied in the Rule of Faith (that is, the established and widely accepted understanding of the main doctrines of Scripture) as preserved through the teachings of the church.

THEODORE, JEROME, AND AUGUSTINE Later teachers such as Theodore of Mopsuestia (c. AD 350–428), Jerome (c. 342–420), and Augustine (354–430) criticized the allegorical method of the Alexandrians as being arbitrary and nonrational. These teachers argued that the Scriptures are to be interpreted in both a literal and a christocentric sense. They insisted that their method was not the same as the allegorical approach, because it was rooted in the text of Scripture itself. They refused to disconnect the literal, historical meaning of the text from its spiritual meaning. Jerome, though initially a proponent of allegorization, later embraced the literal-historical approach to Scripture without abandoning the deeper spiritual meaning of the text that had been championed by Theodore and others. Jerome insisted that scriptural texts should be read in a historical context, something the allegorical approach had de-emphasized. The greatest theologian of the early church was Augustine. He championed a literal, historical approach to reading the Bible, insisting that a proper understanding must begin with the mind of the writer, which required knowing the biblical languages and paying attention to context. The fourfold approach to Scripture that he put forth (see below) was widely used, and abused, in the Medieval era.

THE REFORMERS The Protestant Reformers of the sixteenth century reacted against the misuse of the Bible in Late Medieval theology. They insisted that authority rested not in the leaders or fathers of the church but in a proper understanding of the text derived from correct methods of literary interpretation. Reformers starting with John Wycliffe (c. 1330–1384) insisted on a grammatical-historical approach to the Bible. The German reformer Martin Luther (1483–1546) broke with the nonliteral, allegorical approach that was dominant in his training and returned to the patristic emphasis on the centrality of Christ in the Scriptures. He was adamant that the Bible be approached not through fanciful allegories or merely to support established dogma but through ordinary language and literal, historical, and grammatical exegesis. A proper understanding of the Bible should be the product of such interpretation of the scriptural texts and should lead to healthy theology and a robust Christian life. The most prolific expositor of Scripture, as well as the first major systematizer of Protestant theology, was John Calvin (1509–1564). Calvin stressed Scripture over theology and saw theology as the fruit resulting from the proper interpretation of Scripture. He was a skilled linguist who approached the Bible from the viewpoint of its historical veracity, literal interpretation, and contextual analysis. He often interpreted prophetic texts in a typological manner (as looking forward to Christ), yet he strenuously opposed arbitrary allegorization, which he believed undermined the certainty and clarity of Scripture. Some assign to Calvin the designation “the founder of modern grammatical-historical exegesis,” which is confirmed by the continued popularity of his commentaries and the way in which modern interpreters still interact with him as a sober, accurate exegete.

Grudem, Wayne; C. John Collins, and Thomas R. Schre (2012-02-29). Understanding Scripture: An Overview of the Bible’s Origin, Reliability, and Meaning (p. 21). Crossway. Kindle Edition.

 

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